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good morning. i'm chris jansing. the party went late into the night, but this morning, it's back to work. today is the first full day of president obama's new term and perhaps a new tone, a new strategy. certainly an ambitious agenda. a confident president barack obama explained his plan for the coming years and he went bold, meaning climate change, gay rights, defending medicare and social security. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> here's the "washington post" headline. obama lays out liberal vision. the "new york times" also called it a liberal vision for a second term. and politico writes obama is on
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offense for liberalism. let me bring in mother jones reporter andy kroll and politico's white house reporter, carrie budoff-brown. good morning. so how different was the tone in this speech? >> i mean, it was very different from the way he, you know, governed for the last four years or attempted to govern. he came at it from sort of a centrist, pragmatist approach, and it didn't work out so well for him a lot of the times. he faced a congress in republican hands for the last two years in the house that did not, you know, accept his agenda or pass it through the way he would like it. so i think he learned from this election, gave him the confidence to say the election delivered a mandate for my vision of government, my vision of politics, one that involves gay rights, immigration, climate change, an issue that he hasn't really spoken of since his attempts to deal with it in
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2009, fell short. so this was really a different president coming out, using the election as a turning point for his agenda and really making clear that that cautious pragmatist of the last four years, that often came out, is going to give way to someone who is unabashedly starting negotiations from a more progressive liberal standpoint than he was willing to do in the recent past. >> not surprisingly, there's been some push-back already. darrell issa said quote, i'm hoping the president will recognize that compromise should have been the words for today and they clearly weren't. john mccain said i would have liked to see a little more on outreach and working together. there was not, as i have seen in other inaugural speeches. i want to work with my colleagues. and i'm wondering what you think about this approach and i think that the push-back isn't surprising as much as we're surprised by just how strongly worded it was. >> republicans wasted no time whatsoever rebuking the
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president and the president, to be fair, this was not a speech about conciliation or compromise and in fact, the clip we heard about a nation of takers, referring to medicare and medicaid and social security, was basically a direct rebuke to congressman paul ryan, who was mitt romney's running mate. so the republicans have lots to bicker with, lots to single out in the president's inauguration speech, including the president didn't write it with the thinking of this is going to be a reach across the aisle type of message. >> yeah, obviously a very clear choice he made. let me play for you what senator tom coburn just said on "morning joe." >> i think he missed some opportunities to pull the country together, but a lot of his words were good words for the country to hear. i think he missed a big opportunity to require the responsibility of this wonderful freedom we have that's going to require all of us to have some sacrifice. >> he didn't say shared
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sacrifice, although he did say we must make the hard choices. he talked about reducing the cost of health care, the size of the deficit. the focus, it seemed to me, if there was an overriding theme, it was on equality, including fixing income inequality. how did you see it? >> i mean, the section on deficits, health care, entitlements, was a really fascinating paragraph. it wasn't a very long piece of the speech, but it was on one hand, the pragmatist obama coming out and saying we have to make hard choices on health care, on deficits, but he pivoted hard back to that message of equality that social security, medicare, medicaid are social equalizer and he's going to defend their place in society, and that's a slightly -- he's always said similar things, but the fact that he turned so hard back to a tone of saying i'm going to defend these programs, it led people to believe rightly so that he's going to be coming at the negotiations in the next couple months, maybe even the
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next four years, driving a harder bargain than he had the last four years on entitlement reform. it upset some deficit hawks, people who are hoping he really takes the reins on entitlement reform and makes some of the hard decisions in their view and that perhaps maybe he's going to pull back from things like raising the medicare eligibility age. a lot of controversial things that democrats don't want to see him do. lot of people out there are worried he won't do it now. >> also the social issues. he was the first president ever to use the word gay in a speech. let me play that for you. >> our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law. for if we are truly created equal, then surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well. >> you know, we also use the word ambitious here, and there's no doubt it is ambitious and is it clear at this point exactly, andy, sort of how he's going to prioritize this? does the white house really
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think that they can make headway on all of these different items that they put forth in the agenda tomorrow? yesterday? >> the inauguration was very much a to-do list for the president and a very progressive, liberal to-do list as we've just explained. at the top of the list, obviously, is resolving the fiscal crises, the brinksmanship that we continue to go through here in washington. but gun control came up in the speech, newtown was referenced, the quiet lanes of newtown were referenced in the speech. that is on the top of the president's agenda as well. and he brought up climate change, this critical environmental issue, several times. especially compared to the one mentioned in his 2009 inauguration. so i think that the fiscal priorities as well as dealing with gun control, getting some legislation there and some movement on the climate, these are the things that seem to be emphasized and seemed to be at the top of his agenda as he dives into his second term. >> let me bring in congresswoman allison schwartz, democrat from
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pennsylvania. good morning. good to see you. >> morning. how are you? >> i'm well. >> busy weekend, wasn't it. >> busy weekend for everybody, for sure. let me read to you how david remnick from "the new yorker" described the president's speech. this was barack obama without apology, a liberal emboldened by political victory and a desire to enter the history books with a progressive agenda. his rhetoric was not high flung but it was muscular, clear. gone was the primacy of compromise which marked obama's days as president of the harvard law review and even his first years in office. i'm wondering, did you see a different barack obama out there yesterday? >> well, you certainly saw a very strong and determined president and i think that's good for this country. i think he is also a president and by personality, someone who does believe in compromise and negotiation, and some of the difficult fiscal questions we have going forward, he has been absolutely willing to compromise with the republican leadership on, and is certainly going to be willing to work with them and need to work with them in the
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future. but he made it very clear that in some ways, what he was referencing is that's the work of government that we have to get done. that's in some ways, it shouldn't be so difficult. we need to raise the debt ceiling so we should do it. we need to, you know, have a budget and need to reduce the deficit and need to make investments for the future. what he wanted to talk about is what a great country it is and how we need to make sure it's a country that offers opportunity for all americans and expands the middle class. >> you have been in the trenches. you know how divided congress is. do you think by not using words like compromise, by not reaching out in that very high profile speech, that it was a missed opportunity as some republicans are suggesting? >> well, i think that, you know, it's a little bit of looking backwards and the president was looking forward. i think what he was really saying is and reflecting in a way on his last two years, is he sought to compromise and compromise and compromise again and has gotten so little from the republican leadership. i think what the speech yesterday was about is we need to move forward and if going to,
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you need to know i'm going to be a determined president. we know the path forward. we may disagree on some things but let's get done what we need to get done in government and let's really think about the future and what we want this country to be. and those visions may be different for the republicans who see only a smaller government, only less in entitlement, only less spending, and that's really a very small vision of who we are in this country. and it's really very different than what the president wants to put forward. >> the president did not specifically mention guns but he did talk about protecting our children and did mention newtown. andrea mitchell told a great anecdote. she was interviewing connecticut governor dan malloy and joe manchin walked over. here's what he had to say. >> i think i'm with the rest of the people, connecticut and the united states, we want action. no gun should be sold without a background check. you can't get on a plane without a background check. you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. >> is there anything that you sense in there that everybody
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comes together, feels a little kumbaya for 48 hours, maybe it feels like that, but is there anything that suggests to you that the two sides will be able to work together in barack obama's second term? >> well, i'm a moderate centrist democrat. i do believe we can find common ground. i also believe that we have to stand firmly on what we believe in and after what happened in newtown and actually after a series of really tragic mass shootings and of course, what happens daily in this country, loss of life from gun violence, i believe strongly that there are actions we can take. the president laid out a very reasonable actions we should take and yet we have not seen any movement on the republican side and that is really not just disappointing but really doesn't speak to the real demand from americans that we need to do more to keep our children and our communities safer. so i think it's something that will be very difficult to get it done. it will need a cry from the american people saying can't you do something to make sure that i can send my children to school
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and be assured that they will be safer. we need to take actions that we can take to do that. so there really are sensible actions we can take that still respect gun ownership in this country and it's about time. >> your republican colleagues do plan to bring a bill to the floor this week, a short-term raise for the debt ceiling debate until may, and stop paying members if the senate doesn't pass a budget. how will you vote on that? >> well, look, what's good about this is at least the republicans recognize increase the debt ceiling is something we need to do. but in fact, three months is not good enough. it really is unacceptable for my opinion and i think most of the democrats, because there are plenty of opportunities for us and we should really be looking long-term how we can reduce the deficit and deal with long-term sustainability for medicare and medicaid. those are issues that we have to look at and i believe we will and we have opportunities to do that around the budget, around the sequester, of course we will have to deal with in less than,
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well, six weeks. and we should. the debt ceiling, we need that certainty for the markets, for our economy. we know what happened when the republicans played around with not raising the debt ceiling in august of 2011. the economy was deeply hurt. we're in a recovery and we certainly should not let the republicans let us slip back with failing to provide that kind of certainty and not only the american markets but the global markets. >> congresswoman schwartz, thanks so much for coming on the program after a long weekend. appreciate it. carrie, what's the republican strategy here? what happened with this extension? >> well, it's hard to view this as anything but a retreat of sorts. i mean, a few weeks ago, certainly in december, there was a lot of talk about using the debt limit in february to extract more from the president and the fact that they're pushing it back shows that they were not as confident in that position as they would like. they were pretty isolated in
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terms of the position. the business community was telling them not to do it. high profile conservatives were saying the same. this now sets them up for a pretty clean argument come april or may, the fact that they're telling the senate to pass a budget and that the lawmakers will not be paid until they do it. this is stuff they have been wanting to do for awhile in terms of forcing the senate to act. it's an interesting strategy and it doesn't totally take away their leverage. they will still have the debt limit they are going to try to use. the white house will not give it to them. i think all around, the white house was feeling pretty good about what happened with the republicans' decision to pull back and not sort of push us on the brink in the immediate future. >> john boehner has been tweeting out a picture that i think is interesting, and writing among other things, will senate democrats ever pass a budget. in the four years since senate democrats passed a budget, you could make 179 round trips to the moon. at the same time, chuck schumer says the senate is going to pass a budget so andy, are the democrats going to call the
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republicans' bluff? >> well, the question that i want to know and what will be playing out this week is whether john boehner's plan, this is a gamble for house speaker john boehner. there are members of the republican caucus in the house who don't want to raise the debt ceiling at all and don't even think a three-month extension of the debt ceiling as a ploy to put the political pressure on the senate democrats to pass a budget, they may not even vote for this. so he has his work cut out for him to make sure that his caucus or at least the vast majority of it is on board for this. and for the senate democrats, if this three-month extension passes, it does move the spotlight, it does put the heat on them and they haven't passed a budget in years, and you know, it goes to the senate and it goes to senate majority leader harry reid and we'll see what they do. but first, john boehner has to get his folks on board in the house. >> andy, carrie, good to see both of you. thanks. >> thank you. boy, it was a stunning way
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to cap off the inaugural festivities. the president and first lady sharing a dance at the inaugural ball of course, to "let's stay together" performed by jennifer hudson. she sang this song earlier at the commander-in-chief's ball. mrs. obama wore that amazing red dress by jason wu. her outfit will now go to the national archives. she actually took time out of her night to tweet just danced to "let's stay together" with the love of my life and the president of the united states. i'm so proud of barack. with the spark miles card from capital one, thor gets great rewards for his small business! your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics. put it on my spark card. ow. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve great rewards. [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with double miles
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this morning, as the president is back at the white house to tackle his ambitious second term agenda, it's useful to look at his inaugural speech
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and what it tells us about what's ahead. there was this memorable moment after the swearing in ceremonies at the capitol where president obama stopped to take in the moment. take a listen. he is now a member of an elite group of just 17 presidents elected to a second term, many of whom faced far greater challenges in their fifth through eighth years. can he avoid what is now popularly called the second term curse? i'm joined now by nbc news presidential historian, michael beschloss. good to see you. >> wasn't that fascinating yesterday? >> i was taken by that moment because i was once -- it still gets me all chilled, on the day before an inauguration was allowed by a congressman to walk out on to that stage essentially and stand behind that podium. i thought i was going to pass out. the view of the mall, i can only
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imagine it filled with people. >> just amazing. >> tell me what your thoughts were yesterday. >> for a historian like me, yesterday was like woodstock. that's just what people like me live for. absolutely scintillating. one irony, today is the day that 40 years ago today, lyndon johnson died. i think he would have recognized and probably admired that speech yesterday very much. and i think one way of understanding it is to look at it as a reply to ronald reagan in 1981. in the same place ronald reagan got up and said government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem. yesterday was sort of not only a response to that but almost a bookend as reagan moved the country in a conservative direction. barack obama obviously hopes to move it in a liberal direction. >> the "new york times" editorial had this to say. mr. obama is smart enough to know that what he wants to achieve in his second term must be done in the next two years, perhaps even the first 18 months. there is no doubt that mr. obama has the ambition and intellect
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to place himself in the first rank of presidents. with this speech, he has made a forceful argument for a progressive agenda that meets the nation's needs. we hope he has the political will and tactical instincts to carry it out. lot of things in that quote, but one that struck me, we always talk about how it's a never-ending campaign now. is that what we're looking at now, a president has 18 months to get something done? >> i would be a little bit -- i would say six to eight months in terms of things he wants out of congress, because you know, this year, this spring, he's going to be asking a lot of democrats and republicans to cast votes that may cause them some problems in their states and their districts. by the end of this year, they are going to be thinking about the next election, they are going to be much less willing to do that. after the midterms next year, he will be a lame duck. lyndon johnson, most of the things we think of as the great society, medicare, voting rights and the rest, those were passed in the first six months of his full term. that was not by accident.
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>> the president touched upon so many things. gun control, immigration, climate change, gay rights, not exactly easy topics to take on. but listen to what he said right after the election. >> i'm more than familiar with all the literature about presidential overreach in second terms. we are very cautious about that. >> how much a danger do you see that as and how does he avoid what some other presidents before him suffered, what has been called second term curse? >> well, with fdr, nixon and johnson, we didn't have a president who had actually read the literature on presidential overreach, which we did. in johnson's case, we came up with this huge majority, more democrats in congress than any time in the 20th century except for roosevelt, and yet he felt that he could not level with congress about his escalation in vietnam so he was very oblique about some of the things he did. in the long run, that proved to be disastrous for that
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presidency. i don't think barack obama ever needed to learn that lesson, but in case he did, i think he knows it very well. >> michael, always great to see you. thank you. >> same here, chris. it's election day in israel. prime minister benjamin netanyahu cast his ballot early today. he is expected to be elected to a third term but his party is likely to lose receipts in parliament. netanyahu says iran's nuclear threat is at the top of his agenda. his critics argue he hasn't done enough to work on peace with the palestinians. ♪ just one bite opens a world of delight... ♪ with tasty grilled flavor and goodness to savor ♪ ♪ friskies grillers blend. ♪ feed the senses.
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it's president clinton sneaking a peek at "american idol" star kelly clarkson as she walked to the podium to sing. and speaking of songs, listen to this. ♪ obama's on fire ♪ obama's on fire >> alicia keys also sang the president had both feet on the ground and is not backing down. and of course, what would an inauguration be without souvenirs. this is from the official gift shop. there we go. it's a hat. how much did this cost? i can't even see that. $16.50. you have your real fake ticket to the event. that was $10 but you get the lanyard with it. that's my actual real pass. pen. i thought this was the funniest thing. a kid had a sign saying this is my college money and sold a pack of hand warmers for $5. of course, i was stupid enough to buy them. but i was contributing to his
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college fund, right? anyway, if you read only one thing this morning, i don't know about you, but one of my take-aways from the inauguration is how amazing the first daughters are. exactly what we wish our own teens would be like. real, self-assured, confident, but still for lack of a better word, they are so normal and i love their coats. so my must-read is about sasha and malia. it's on our facebook page. ♪ why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell? duralock power preserve.
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of climate change, knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children and future generations. some may still deny the overwhelming judgment of science but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires and crippling drought and more powerful storms. >> former vice president al gore, a sometimes critic of the president's environmental efforts, writes in his blog his forceful commitment to take action will rekindle the hopes of so many that we are at long last approaching the political tipping point beyond which we will finally start transforming our economy to sharply reduce global warming, pollution and safeguard the future. let's bring in democratic strategist and pollster margie o'mara and senior vice president with the winston group, myra miller. good morning. margie, the president wants to focus on what he can do administratively with executive orders although he does plan
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simultaneously to campaign for public support. very different strategy than he used in his first term, isn't it? >> well, yeah. i think the lesson really here for both obama and for congress is that voters want people to come to the table and find compromise on whatever the issue, whether it's climate change, whether it's reducing gun violence, whether it's jobs or the deficit. voters want to see people coming to the table and you've had a lot of republicans in congress who have had this really failing strategy of just saying no to everything, and it's cost them. it's cost them elections, cost them the presidency, cost them in the senate, and it's cost them support for republican house candidates. >> the president of americans for prosperity which is of course the conservative super pac founded by the koch brothers issued a statement. the president's address read like a liberal laundry list with global warming at the top. americans have rejected environmental extremism in the past and they will again.
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the conservative argument being these policies cost jobs, they make the u.s. less competitive against foreign markets. but you've got to wonder how big a fight, myra, are the republicans willing to get into on this? >> i thought it was a pretty aggressive speech from the president yesterday. his underlying premise in the speech was the economy's pretty much taken care of, i can move on to other issues like immigration, climate change and marriage. to his base, he's saying it's taken me four years to fix the economy. now i'm going to move on to some of your priorities. >> well, if that's what he's saying, is that how you heard it, margie? >> maybe i was watching a different channel. i saw a president who talked very specifically about openness and diversity and those are things that really we all share and it's certainly a lesson from this election and when you're talking specifically about climate change, a majority of americans say that they feel, this is according to gallup and pew, it's happening now, it's something that scientists agree on and perhaps more importantly, yale found that a majority feel
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we can protect the environment while also improving the economy. those things are not opposed. i think for a lot of issues, voters, there may be partisan differences but voters do not see the political battles and the hot rhetoric that we hear out of washington. they don't want divisions. there is more consensus than division. >> i do think that there is a sense in this country, because there have been so many natural disasters, about the economic cost of that. one insurance giant says that natural disasters cost a total of $160 billion worldwide last year. parts of the east coast are still recovering from super storm sandy. the midwest dealing with the devastating drought. i mean, is there an area on climate change where republicans can find some common ground with the president and isn't the economic issue on the side of change? >> well, you know, it isn't a matter of arguing whether or not one believes or does not believe in climate change. it really is can he sell these
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initiatives in this economic environment. by about a two to one margin, people view the issue of energy as an economic issue rather than an environmental issue. so it isn't a matter of arguing whether climate change, if you believe it or not, is about in this economy can he sell that. given the state of the economy, given that families are struggling with cost of living, with energy and utility costs being a key driver of that, i think that will be a tough sell for him beyond his base. >> ladies, more to come on this. thank you so much. >> thank you. also making news this morning, record-breaking snow and freezing temperatures. lake-effect snow is slamming the great lakes. some in the snow belt could have up to three feet of snow by tomorrow. these pictures are from cleveland where temperatures will feel like minus 14 today. an arctic blast is sweeping through the midwest and northeast. in chicago this morning, people were bundled up in ten degree temperatures. meteorologists say cities as far south as nashville might not get above freezing today. the president's time in office sure can take a toll. take a look at these pictures. president obama in 2009 and now.
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we will take a look at why presidents age the way they do in about 15 minutes. change is coming to an atm near you. literally. cnbc's mandy drury is here. they are rolling out new atms and will give us singles, fives, even coins? >> it's a new generation of atms being rolled out by jpmorgan chase. these atms can basically spit out any denomination you choose, exact change to the dollar, and i believe the fees for these upgraded machines are going to be about the same as those for the traditional atms. chase has already rolled out between 350 and 400 such atms over the past 18 months and that count is expected to double by the end of the year. the rationale for this change is basically just delivering better and more personalized banking service without having to hire more tellers and other personnel. >> in another sign of fast-changing technological
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times, more blockbuster video stores are going to close. >> yeah. there's the parent company, dish network, planning to close about 300 blockbuster stores across the country which unfortunately, chris, means that about 3,000 employees will lose their jobs. it's going to leave about 500 blockbuster locations remaining in the states. but this is all on top of what happened last year, which was when dish network also closed about 500 underperforming blockbuster stores just a little bit of background here, they bought the then-bankrupt video rental chain for $320 million back in 2011 so it's sad for those people that will lose their jobs over this. >> it is indeed. thank you, mandy. let's take you back to washington, d.c., where inaugural events continue. we're still waiting for the president, the vice president and their families to arrive at the national prayer service at the national cathedral. this service a tradition that dates back to president washington. we will keep our eye on it as we wait for the president. there will also be, by the way,
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majority of americans believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases, even as some states are moving successfully to limit access. i'm joined by kate michaelman, former head of the national abortions right action league, pro-choice america. good to see you. good morning. >> good morning. good to see you, too. >> what do you think is behind this shift in attitudes? >> well, i think, you know, i think we have to put our discussion in the context of president obama's extraordinary inaugural address yesterday, where he paid homage to the history of this country investing in equal rights and ending discrimination for african americans, for women, for gays -- gay and lesbian americans. there is an investment we have made to bring women into an equal role with men in this society, and one of the
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milestone rights that women achieved was in 1973, when roe versus wade recognized a woman's fundamental right to decide whether or not to bear a child. and it is a fundamental right and it is a right that is absolutely necessary for women's equality. >> it is also one that's being fought more and more on the state level. in mississippi, the last remaining abortion clinic may be forced to shut down because of a recently enacted state law. governor bryant wants to end abortion in his state and he wants that clinic gone. let me play for you what he said. >> my goal of course is to shut it down. >> i was surprised by this number. nationwide, state legislatures have passed more than 130 bills to reduce access to abortion over the last two years. so are these efforts to sort of make roe v wade less relevant working? >> absolutely. the effort on the side of those
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who want to take away a woman's right to decide and a woman's right to choose is to make all abortions illegal, but overturning roe is not something they can do, so they are passing legislation in as many states as possible to make it more difficult, more humiliating, more expensive for women who need to terminate their pregnancies to be able to do so. and in fact, the last two years and especially this last year, 2012, there was an assault on women's access to reproductive health care, including, by the way, for the first time since roe v wade, a frontal assault on the right of women to have contraceptive care, to access birth control. i think that should raise a question as to what their real motives are, because if you are opposed to abortion, you would think you would invest in ensuring that women have access to birth control, which is one
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of the most important preventive measures to unintended pregnancy. but i don't think this is about abortion or contraception. it's a means to control women's lives and -- >> strategically, a parallel has been drawn between the passion of gun activists and the nra and activist abortion groups. let me read to you from politico. susan b. anthony list, americans united for life and concerned women for america have brought on board a new generation of younger anti-abortion activists who are media-savvy, skilled at fund-raising and able to extend the reach of the movement deep into state houses and on ballots nationwide. so we don't have a lot of time left, but what's the strategy on the other side, on your side? >> the strategy on our side is what it has been all along, which is to educate, inform and organize and mobilize people at
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the grassroots who understand that reproductive freedom and choice is a fundamental right of women and that women's rights are human rights and we have to always be vigilant and fight against those who would take away that right. and i think, you know, when i became president of the organization in 1984-85, the passion was on the anti-abortion side. i think this last election in 2012 shows that the country has moved to understand that reproductive choices, reproductive decision making, is the purview of women. it's a personal, private, intimate right that needs to be outside of the realm of government, and that people voted, women were a factor in the election of president obama this year, and it was in large part because they saw the threat of -- to their rights, their fundamental right to equality, in the threat to their right to
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call it an occupational hazard. president obama like so many commanders in chief is aging before our eyes. this time lapse slide shows from the "washington post" that being the leader of the free world takes its toll. a lot on president obama, he's got some more gray hairs, maybe a few more wrinkles. let me bring in "washington post" national political correspondent karen tumulty. good to see you. >> hi, chris. >> what do medical experts say, why does it seem that just about every president goes through this rapid aging process? >> you know, there has actually been studies done on this, and a few years ago, a researcher named michael i believe you pronounce it roisand at the cleveland clinic determined that presidents in office thanks to the stress and the isolation, age two years for every one year that the rest of us are living through. but interestingly enough, they
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tend to live longer than most men of their eras. the journal of the american medical association said that the typical president who dies naturally tends to live 11 years longer than the average man of his era. >> ronald reagan and gerald ford lived to be 93. jimmy carter and george h.w. bush are both 88. do they explain why? my first thought was they have great health care. >> that is one of the reasons. and let's face it, men who get to be president tend to be well educated, they tend to be relatively wealthy and they have access to top notch health care. so i think that is one good explanation for why they do have the tendency to live longer. >> we were just looking at some other presidents who aged rather quickly. george w. bush, we have i think that before and after. also his dad, george h.w. bush, if we can bring those up again.
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they both look, i mean, clearly, lots of gray. but they also did exercise a lot so i guess that's one thing that kept them looking fit, if not on their faces, the rest of them looked pretty fit and energetic. >> ironically enough, the president who didn't seem to age was the president who was the oldest when he came into office. that was ronald reagan. and while the white house always officially denied that president reagan dyed his hair, i think there was a lot of skepticism about that. >> bill clinton, salt and pepper hair, it was basically white by the end of his eight years. he did get exercise although i'm not sure jogging to mcdonald's necessarily qualifies. you talk about doctors being concerned about president clinton's health. >> well, in fact, you know, president clinton had a major heart episode after he left office, and subsequent complications from that.
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and you know, these days, he looks a lot gaunter than he did when he was in office. but he has also gone to he says a vegan diet so he's made some lifestyle adjustments here. >> i wonder if part of it, too, is that these days, a lot of men who are in the working world, they do certain things that they wouldn't have done in the past to make them continue to look a little bit younger. maybe a little botox here, a little, what's that stuff you put in the hair, something for men, so the guys don't look so gray anymore. but boy, they get caught in this day and age, wouldn't they? >> yeah. in fact, one time when i was a correspondent for "time" magazine and bob dole was running for president, we had a cover on whether he was too old to be president and i actually asked him, senator, do you dye your hair? he said well, i use a rinse but i never touch my eyebrows. >> i think i remember that. that's great. it's so fun to look at. the "washington post" karen
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tumulty and long lives to all of our presidents and former presidents. thanks for being with us. >> thanks a lot. couple other pieces of news we wanted to get in this morning. some encouraging education news. new report out this morning shows more students are graduating from high school. it's at its highest level in nearly 40 years. the education department study also showed the graduation rate is higher for girls than boys. britain's prince harry has returned from a 20-week tour of duty as a helicopter gunner in afghanistan. he's making some surprising revelations. the prince admitted he was fired upon and said he killed taliban fighters. >> take a life to save a life. that's what we sort of revolve around, i suppose. if the people trying to do stuff to our guys, we'll take them on, i suppose. >> about the family, he said he's very excited about becoming an uncle. not any more excited than the
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rest of britain. that wraps up this hour of jansing and company. i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next live from the nation's capital. what do you have coming up, thomas? good morning. great to see you. topping the agenda next hour, the president outlining an aggressive second term vision in his inaugural address. what his rallying call means for the fight ahead and can he deliver on his progressive agenda? our power panel weighing in on that. plus, roe versus wade turning 40. our new poll showing americans overwhelmingly want it to stand, stay in place. so why are republicans making it nearly impossible for women in certain states to exercise control over their own bodies? nancy keenan and gwen moore will join me live. then i will be joined by richard blanco on the words he delivered to the nation yesterday and his hopes for president obama's second term.
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